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Elwin ([personal profile] elwinfortuna) wrote2022-12-12 09:04 am
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I don't need luck, I have you!

(Or, me watching Rogue One in 2016: boy I sure hope this doesn't awaken anything in me...)

Watched Rogue One again last night (for I think the 4th or 5th time maybe, but for the first time in a long while), and was struck dizzy by Chirrut Imwe/Baze Malbus all over again.

But unlike when I watched it in 2016, or any of the times since then, I finally got why: they're my first proper Chinese wuxia battle couple. So many of the tropes they play out I've seen in "hao xiongdi" (lit. "good brothers" sometimes code for a gay relationship) and dangai (censored live-action productions of danmei novels, such as The Untamed for Mo Dao Zu Shi or Word of Honor for Faraway Wanderers) shows since.

This meta by evocating on Tumblr, Baze/Chirrut in the context of Chinese culture, does a much better job of explaining them and their relationship than I ever could, and really helped me understand them in their proper context.

While I love so much about Rogue One, and I treasure each and every character, Chirrut and Baze really elevate the movie for me. They bring so much humour, snarking back and forth at each other (like the old married couple they CLEARLY are), and also bring in that feeling of trust in the eventual outcome, even if the present looks dark, that sort of looking-forward, seeing the big picture, hope in the sense of estel to borrow from Tolkien, and belief in the eucastastrope (to borrow again) that will come in A New Hope.

I think without them the movie would have felt a lot more grim and dark, and it needed that lightness to carry us through. And their last scene is the only point in the movie that makes me cry, because it's so perfectly balanced between despair and trust that they are almost the same thing.

Anyway! Rogue One is the best Star Wars movie, fight me, and Chirrut/Baze are the best couple in all of Star Wars, fight me again, and they should be acknowledged as husbands, fight me Disney!
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[personal profile] suncani 2022-12-12 12:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Oooh this has made me really tempted to go back and rewatch Rogue One now I've watched a bit more dangai. I definitely found it a bit too bleak to rewatch previously... along with my inability to watch anything without getting distracted.
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[personal profile] suncani 2022-12-15 04:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Agreed! It definitely put into context a lot of what we saw in a way that the prequel trilogy didn't really touch.

And from what I know as a non-American of the Alamo I can definitely see it so I imagine it hits in a completely different way than someone without that context.
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[personal profile] independence1776 2022-12-12 02:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Rogue One is tied with ANH for my favorite Star Wars movie. It is a dark movie done right. And they are most certainly together. It's blatantly obvious. Like, I don't know how it's possible to watch that movie and not see it.
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[personal profile] screechfox 2022-12-12 08:24 pm (UTC)(link)
I've not watched much of Star Wars, and that's because Rogue One was so good that I'm not sure how anything could live up to it. It gives me so many emotions, and Baze and Chirrut especially. Also, thank you for linking that meta, that was an interesting read on my lunch break today!
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[personal profile] narya_flame 2022-12-12 09:35 pm (UTC)(link)
I *LOVE* Rogue One.

Even my mother, who doesn't like Star Wars and is utterly unaware of fandom anything, watched it and loved it and assumed they were together. (Although she is a late blooming bi - I came by it honestly!! - so it was probably speaking to her own needs and wants as well.)
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[personal profile] dragongirlg 2022-12-12 10:30 pm (UTC)(link)
No disagreement from me on any of those points! Rogue One is far and away the best Star Wars movie. I've really enjoyed its prequel series Andor as well. Chirrut and Baze were so HUGE to me in terms of representation - and I agree, it would have been way too grimdark without their humor and their faith/spirituality/hope.
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[personal profile] chestnut_pod 2022-12-13 04:10 am (UTC)(link)
They are such a beautiful relationship! That they are one of so many excellent relationships really speaks to the quality of the film.
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[personal profile] sunshine304 2022-12-13 09:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Rogue One was really good! And I was surprised how invested I was in Chirrut/Baze, how much their banter entertained me – I think I did only see a few trailers and they weren’t exactly the focus point of those, so I hadn’t expected the part they played in the movie.

And you’re right, in this rather grim movie they’re the much needed levity at times without being only comic relief; they do get their weighty moments, too!

I wasn’t ever much into Star Wars but I’d really enjoyed that first movie of the new trilogy, and I enjoyed this one. I’m very pissed at how much Disney Fucked the trilogy up, like – how can you fuck it up with all these great ingredients laid out for you?!
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[personal profile] nerdyjellyfish 2022-12-16 07:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I love Rogue One and Chirrut/Baze <333333 also I love how this post combines all my favorite fandoms xD (SW/SHL&wuxia/LOTR). They really should be acknowledged as husbands. <33333